Barefoottech: anyhow rom checkout my latest PERSONAL site design , http://VK4arj.com
Barefoottech: i love my background
Barefoottech: and ytes it is WordPress , I not only do Joomla!
Rom: Barefoottech: wordpress>joomla //6
Barefoottech: I use wp for blogs , Joomla! for REAL SITES
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fish: lol
fish: common misconception that wp is only for blogs
Rom: i use WP for REAL REAL REAL sites//5
Rom: = people don’t ever realize it’s WP
NVD: I use notepad for REAL SITES
NVD: CMS are as bad as domain hacks 
fish: does this look like WP? http://customtheme.com/
NVD: um yes
Rom: should’ve showed xhtml.am
Rom: too bad it’s dead//2
fish: //2
NVD: whats that? ;o
fish: you prefer static HTML sites?
Barefoottech: NOtepad ==A text editor anyone STILL using NON-CMS techniques is so 1990′s
Rom: fish: eww
Rom: I prefer .htm pages
fish: I remember .htm
NVD: BFT: CMS gets in my way
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fish: what’s one of your static html sites then?
Barefoottech: WP,DRUPAL,Dreamweaver,ASP.net et al is never getting in the way
NVD: who ever said static html?
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Barefoottech: NVD static SUX
fish: well what do you use…if you don’t use a cms?
Rom: dreamweaver?//5
NVD: dont use dw
Rom: notepad>frontpage>dreamweaver//5
jay28: hey everyone haven’t been for a while
NVD: i hand write everything i want a site to do :/
Barefoottech: NVD drag your thinking into the 2000
NVD: Would you use Joomla or WP to develop an accounts management system?
NVD: Or a music social site?
Barefoottech: I suppose u manually send the bits over the intenet link as well , CMS make LIfe easier not HARDER
Rom: NVD: why not?
fish: nah I’d rather make a static HTML account management system
Barefoottech: NVD i would NEVER USE HTML for music social or accounts either
fish: where people have to send me an email through a mailto: link every time they wanted to login
fish: and then I’d upload a new html page for their account
Rom: fish: I’d rather draw it in MSWord and get a $2 coder to code it
jay28: i’ve been testing out mambo, its pretty nice
Barefoottech: Custom asp of php developed site
NVD: oh dear.. no one ever said im using just html?
Barefoottech: NVD: OK but at least use decent editor
Barefoottech: jay28: MAMBO Is DEAD use joomla 1.5 or 1.6
NVD: I dont reallly use notepad, i use ‘text based editors’
NVD: I write everything in js/php
tvdotcoms: am going to edit the theme myself…learning something new today 
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tvdotcoms: NVD: hi
NVD: tvdotcoms: hi
Barefoottech: Joomla 1.0 is Mambo Continued by the ORIGINAL Crew (Including me) and Joomla 1.5 is partial rewrite 1.6 is New OOPs project
tvdotcoms: jay28: how u doing
Barefoottech: NVD:ok
fish: ok…just because you write it yourself doesn’t mean it’s not a cms
Rom: wow
tvdotcoms: fish: are you fresh , am hungry
NVD: cms = content management system, last i saw my text editor isnt a cms :/
NVD: dont get me wrong, i have nothing against them
Rom: character managment system
NVD: they are great things
NVD: i just have a preference
fish: oh geez
fish: not even gonna try to explain anymore
Electric-Shadow: <”))))))>|
Barefoottech: joomla/wp/ et al cms also use php/text ediotrs CMS is a Paradigm of usage
fish: 3-$
NVD: I dont know what your trying to explain, all i said is i dont use Joomla and WP for sites out of preference >_>
Rom: oh like my computer science teacher said MS Word is for making sites
Rom: I said wtf? He gave me a zero
Electric-Shadow: never used joomla personally allthough youd be surprised to find out some sites do
Barefoottech: What i am trying to say is U can still USE your own PHP code and Routines but USe a CMS for the Basic Framwork , why re-invent the wheel
Electric-Shadow: i mean
fish: MS Word > MS Frontpage for making sites
Electric-Shadow: youd be surprised to find out what sites use joomla
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Electric-Shadow: ms word? //2//2//2//2
Barefoottech: Electric-Shadow: The local state government where I live has MANDATED Joomla for all new development for official sites
Electric-Shadow: id rather use dreamweaver
Electric-Shadow: theyll regret that if joomla ever stops development
Rom: my computer science midterm exam was to make a business card using MS Word. You HAD TO include a Clipart, and special MS WOrd text,
Barefoottech: I would rather use morse code than MS-word
Electric-Shadow: Rom: thats so ghey //2
NVD: BFT: I understand that. But why go to effort to edit the basic layout joomla gives you (from my use of it anyway) NVD: Does Joomla like RoR and J2EE apps?
Rom: Electric-Shadow: that damn comp science prof hates me
Electric-Shadow: Barefoottech: id rather code a site i n ajax completely in latin than use ms word
Rom: cause i know more than he does, he keeps giving me 0s//2
Electric-Shadow: Rom: //2
Rom: and he’s apparently a prof in computer science department
Electric-Shadow: he obviously knows squat if he honestly thinks people use ms word to make biz cards //2
Electric-Shadow: you need to show him photoshop //2
Barefoottech: I am not saying use Joomla , just use any existing framework that suits , and by the way RoR and J2EE are Frameworks , so u are NOT DOing all your own Development
fish: rofl
Rom: Electric-Shadow: i got so pis$ed once, that i did his task in MS Paint
Rom: he got pi$sed and made me leave the class//2
Electric-Shadow: //2//2//2
NVD: BFT: I wasn’t saying I dont use Frameworks.. I said I dont use Joomla or WP.
Electric-Shadow: making you use ms word is even degrading //5
Electric-Shadow: Barefoottech: exactly
Rom: we finished MS Word tho
Electric-Shadow: whatever suits your needs, use it
Rom: We’re doing Excel now
Electric-Shadow: you cant blindly stick to one cms and have sucessful sites
Rom: not sure what we larned form excel so far tho, skipped those classes for a whole week now//2
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Electric-Shadow: Rom: will he want you to code a java applet in excel? //2
Barefoottech: NVD ok , I also do/can and often use other frameworks and environments, ALL programmers/developers NEED to keep open MIND , like rom’s STUPID lecturer Never get stuck in a Mindset that only 1 thing is solution
Rom: Electric-Shadow: nah to enter random data
dmi: Hey, does anyone have know C (the programming language)?
dmi: have==here*
Barefoottech: dmi: yes Learnt it 20 years ago
NVD: BFT i have an open mind, i said joomla and such are good, i just dont use them as i dont have a requirement too yet :p
Rom: damn it’s november
Barefoottech: Ok no worries
